Cure Vitiligo (Leukoderma) Questions
Updated: 07/10/2008
*Ted, an independent contributor, offers information and opinions on Earth Clinic, not as a substitute for professional medical prevention, diagnosis, or treatment. Please consult with your physician, pharmacist, or health care provider before taking any home remedies or supplements or following any treatment suggested by Ted or by anyone on this site. Only your health care provider, personal physician, or pharmacist can provide you with advice on what is safe and effective for your unique needs or diagnose your particular medical history.
WHAT KIND OF BORAX DOES TED USE?
STOPPING AND REVERSING PIGMENT LOSS
TEN-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
WHAT KIND OF BORAX DOES TED USE?
07/10/2008: Shawna writes: "Ted, I read your Vitiligo cure on Earth Clinic. Could you please tell me exactly what kind of borax you use. The only one I could find was the laundry booster. Thank you so much, Shawna"
08/12/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "A vitiligo is often a fungus attacking the skin pigmentation. However some other people have a much severe form of this condition. A borax may help and the kind of borax is 20 mule team borax maybe use as it is 100% borax. However, for external use, most borax detergents solution is applied on the skin. However, I have also tested with hydrogen peroxide 3% to help reduce vitiligo too and works, but requires about a week or two to work. But in a more serious condition I have recently resorted to using a 20% ammonium chloride solution applied to the skin that is not rinsed and do that for a couple of days to notice some improvement. Vitiligo has other underlying conditions which leads to this condition too such as peanut, peanut butter, excess vegetable oil consumption, mushrooms, and excess sugar are the primary problems. Some people who have this may have blood sugar problems, and the blood sugar may to increase immunity needs a supplement of chromium picolinate, 1000 mcg.
It should be noted that vitiligo to repigment that adding plenty of black pepper (pure black pepper) to foods or as a supplements will help greatly on the repigmentation. It's taken twice a day added to food, generously, as black pepper contains piperine.
Ted"
STOPPING AND REVERSING PIGMENT LOSS
12/31/2007: I writes: "Dear Ted, I have been reading all the articles posted on EarthClinic and need to know if you know of any natural cures for Vitiligo, any information on the subject is greatly appreciated."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Vitiligo that I have found here and have seem success is the use of hydrogen peroxide and borax remedy applied to the area affected. I may either use a 3% Hydrogen peroxide or a 1% Hydrogen peroxide solution, but 1.5% is what I preferred. In a 500 cc bottle of hydrogen peroxide, I will add about 1 tablespoon of borax and dissolved it. Most will not be dissolved and may form precipitate, on the bottom of the bottle, but that's not important. I used this and apply to the skin something like 10 times a day and do this over the course of about a month. The cause of the vitiligo I have found in this case were the fungus, which lead to autoimmunity. Hence, I might take maybe twice a week, borax 1/4 teaspoon in one liter of drinking water, over the course of a day, as well as 2 tablespoon of lemon juice and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in at least 1/2 glass of water twice a day. The alkalization and reduction in serum calcium will lead to reduction in fungus, which leads to lower "autoimmunity", resulting in less vitiligo. Of course there may be other causes of vitiligo, but the ones I did encountered and successfully treated was to use the borax/hydrogen peroxide/baking soda/lemon remedy mentioned. Frequency of application is critical. People may have sensitive skin if the concentration goes beyond 1.5%, but in some tough cases and less sensitive skin, I might use up to 3% concentration. But usually I prefer 1.5%, but frequency of application is critical to the success of removing the vitiligo. This is then followed by some sun exposure (after the fungus die off - as they eat up the skin pigment) and should usually go away in about a month or so, assuming of course that the cause is fungus. I don't seem to have noticed any vitiligo cases brought by genetic and other "environmental factors" but fungus is the ones I encountered in all the cases I have seen. If that was not working, I might consider taking some plenty of cod liver oil as it has plenty of vitamin D, which also lowers the autoimmunity problem, that with the vitamin K2."
TEN-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
11/11/2007: Janet from New Jersey writes: "My ten year old daughter has vitiligo. I take her for acupressure treatments and she is getting her second ion cleanse. I also have her taking herbal tea that was formulated by an herbalist. Are there any natural cures that you can recommend for this condition. I just discovered your website and love it. I hope you can help me with my daughter. Thank You."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Vitiligo is officially treated as a genetic issue. Although I tend to prefer a more pragmatic way to consider this as an autoimmunity bought on by a fungus condition, as generally a fungus eats up the pigmentation of the skin. Since a fungus, often result in the depigmentation of the skin, and perhaps the vitiligo might also be related to a fungus condition, that the body is unable to fight off due to a "genetic" problem.
Hence the remedy is two parts water, and one part of 3% H2O2 resulting in roughly 1% H2O2 solution and assuming the hands is the affected portion resulting in a vitiligo, I would get a towel wet with a 1% H2O2 solution and apply it once every 5 minutes for about 5 times to the area, twice a day. An autoimmunity can be initiated whenever the body becomes acidosis (the urine pH becomes below 6, while ideally it should be closer to 7). Hence I would take enough of the lemon and baking soda, such as 1 tablespoon (child's dose assuming weight is about 50 pounds) lemon juice, and 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/4 glass of water taken twice a day, once in morning and once in evening. Another stronger antifungal remedy, that helps with me, in case the first remedy was not helpful is the a saturated borax in 1% hydrogen peroxide applied topically to the area, unrinse. It SHOULD be noted that you CANNOT exceed 1% concentration as it is too strong for most people. Some people don't know how much is a saturated borax solution is. Generally if the 1% hydrogen peroxide, and you add borax, usually 1 tablespoon in a cup of 1% H2O2, is a close approximation of a saturated borax. The remedy is often applied for about a month and takes about 2-3 weeks to notice some improvement. Although autoimmunity problems may also be reduced with taking vitamin D3 and vitamin K2, also, but these vitamins, for some reason are often hard to obtain from the market, but they do have some effect in dealing with autoimmunity if sufficient doses is taken, so in case of small child, I imagine the remedy is closer to about 1000-5000 i.u. of vitamin D3, taken for about a month's time, then it is discontinued. An old remedy my father uses of a depigmentation of skin was to apply garlic oil to the affected area, or just flesh clove of garlic applied. While it did seem to help when I was in U.S. I seem to suspect it was the lack of sun exposure and vitamin D that bought out this problem, but this might not officially be vitiligo, it was however related to autoimmunity, but my own observations was that it was the fungus that bought about the autoimmunity in the first place, and dealing with the fungus, will usually deal with the autoimmunity that bought about the depigmentation of the skin."
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LIKE I STATED EARLIER I JUST POST WHAT I READ TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT DON'T COME OFF WITH ME WITH ATTITUDE. THAT ISN'T MY.STORY IT'S WHAT I READ I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'D NOT POST ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC. FURTHERMORE IT WAS POSTED OVER A YEAR AGO. GO IN PEACE.AND STOP. GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR JOURNEY REMEMBER EVERYBODY JOURNEY IS DIFFERENT. REMEMBER HOW BIG A GRAIN OF SALT IS. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND....
I know we are nearly all looking for a solution to having Vitiligo but posting information from the net, purporting to be potential cures, is not helpful. There are that many "treatments" being touted, just waiting for people to part with their money. Its important that we don't give people false hope. So unless something has been proven to work for you (we have to appreciate that Vitiligo is a very unique condition and some people do repigment-but their "treatment" may have nothing to do with them recovering their pigment), you really mustn't post because you don't know and someone will be trying this "magical cure" and it could potentially cause harm.
Where people get annoyed, its because they have reached the end of their tether of well-intentioned people who want to share something they have heard from someone who has heard from someone else, whose great uncle's grandmother's sister who is three parts removed has heard someone has been cured...Its like Chinese whispers-there is never an actual person who can prove they have been cured and by that I mean their treatment/cure has been properly substantiated by a professional medical body.
Internet is the biggest library ever , no doctor will ever bother more about your problem than you yourself . Thats why doctors never ever help with something more serious than a blister . Cause 99% of them are just workers for their pay check , like waitress is , its only in your mind they are something. When i go to med institution i can see them overworked on their last bits of patience, cause they have like 8 minutes for a patient , it takes 5 minutes to fill all the paperwork and 3 for a patient ... They say " ohh lets try light therapy..." cause its easy way to get rid of you . They know it wont help you , cause their success rate is 0.00% :)
Professional medical body nowadays is there to make the most profit for their investors and shareholders . Its a ruthless ruthless mafia like business . Why oh why a businessman would tell you that there is 15 dollars medicine, when he can sell you 200 dollars creme or 3000 dollars laser taser procedure for the rest of your life ?It happens only in peoples dreams , never happens in business world ... ever .
'When you have your body wrecked by Viti or some other nasty shit nothing is dangerous anymore . Or something is ? Or one should rather accept himself/herself as they are ... you are beautiful in your own unique way ... you are not . Its just a new age garbage .
I knew beforehand i will be wasting my time posting my success . But oh well ... i was in a good mood . And im not selling anything ... And 3 months course of Tyrosine is cheaper than a kilo of pistachio nuts
PS. I was 100000% sure it will help me, just no doubt , i dont know why, but i relaxed and knew i made it from day one .
Phew i posted everything i wanted :D i will stick to reading from now on . But i dont promise :D
Andrew please do not quit, but keep sharing what you went through. You are 100% right about the health sector, and its workers. You are also right about medication attitude, that really sucks. You are also right that you are the one responsible for your health and treatment, not doctors. You should be the one sitting on the whell period.
Your statements with tyrosine sounds like it is a magical approach. People are despreate, that is why they could understand that way. Ish was, I guess, just warning because of that.
I am also recovered from viti. My approach, however, did not work in 4 vitis. But I got good improvements with those. It was not the protocol I was using but the material. Now we are fixing a couple of things and trying again. Although I very much wanted to write what I used, I did not want people get hope and then get disappoinment. Anyhow, just be noted we used tyrosine for 8 months and did not see improvement.
So just think that usually a couple of other things coupled with tyrosine could be effective than alone.
Thanks Audrey good info. Will check it out. Boy oh boy people get so touchy about this subject I've learned to be more open about peoples opinions and views cause.you never know what opinion or view might cure you. So I appreciate all responses. Thank u again.
Yeah ,just because skin is depigmented doesnt mean its Vitiligo . One should look more into amino acids deficit that causes Vitiligo . There is one certain amino acid that is responsible for skin pigmentation . Look it up . Saved my life .
Hana, yeah i posted it like 200 times already :D they will ban me :D :D the amino acid is Tyrosine . I buy it at sports supplements store . Its cheap and effective ... at least for me . Tyrosine deficit is the main reason of Vitiligo ...period .
Yes tyrosine is important, but not the solution really (8 months of continueing experimenting). In the last 6 months experimenting with two vitis on my protocol, I did not have success with vitiligo. I know all pathways (belive me). However, good news for hypo and hiper troids; both can be cured 100% using this product partly. I mean you can quit using troit meditacations totally (this was very surprising for us and uninteresting for the doctors asking for 3 months-troit visits). A hashimotos patient was also totally cured. A couple of tests you need to do done before using this product. It changes depending on the level of troit disorder. More importantly, if you are hyper DO NOT use this amino acid for vitiligo. It will screw up your tyroit badly.
Now after stabilising troit disorder we are working on viti with different ways. However, it is winter and we do not have much success yet. But we have very big hope.
Yeah of course if possible you better check what minerals are lacking in your system , a hair test . But here in Lithuania its very hard to get it done . So i dindt bother .
Also i heard a testimony that manganese helped totally . But its even harder to get :)
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I know we are nearly all looking for a solution to having Vitiligo but posting information from the net, purporting to be potential cures, is not helpful. There are that many "treatments" being touted, just waiting for people to part with their money. Its important that we don't give people false hope. So unless something has been proven to work for you (we have to appreciate that Vitiligo is a very unique condition and some people do repigment-but their "treatment" may have nothing to do with them recovering their pigment), you really mustn't post because you don't know and someone will be trying this "magical cure" and it could potentially cause harm.
Where people get annoyed, its because they have reached the end of their tether of well-intentioned people who want to share something they have heard from someone who has heard from someone else, whose great uncle's grandmother's sister who is three parts removed has heard someone has been cured...Its like Chinese whispers-there is never an actual person who can prove they have been cured and by that I mean their treatment/cure has been properly substantiated by a professional medical body.
I post my personal success story .
Internet is the biggest library ever , no doctor will ever bother more about your problem than you yourself . Thats why doctors never ever help with something more serious than a blister . Cause 99% of them are just workers for their pay check , like waitress is , its only in your mind they are something. When i go to med institution i can see them overworked on their last bits of patience, cause they have like 8 minutes for a patient , it takes 5 minutes to fill all the paperwork and 3 for a patient ... They say " ohh lets try light therapy..." cause its easy way to get rid of you . They know it wont help you , cause their success rate is 0.00% :)
Professional medical body nowadays is there to make the most profit for their investors and shareholders . Its a ruthless ruthless mafia like business . Why oh why a businessman would tell you that there is 15 dollars medicine, when he can sell you 200 dollars creme or 3000 dollars laser taser procedure for the rest of your life ?It happens only in peoples dreams , never happens in business world ... ever .
'When you have your body wrecked by Viti or some other nasty shit nothing is dangerous anymore . Or something is ? Or one should rather accept himself/herself as they are ... you are beautiful in your own unique way ... you are not . Its just a new age garbage .
I knew beforehand i will be wasting my time posting my success . But oh well ... i was in a good mood . And im not selling anything ... And 3 months course of Tyrosine is cheaper than a kilo of pistachio nuts
PS. I was 100000% sure it will help me, just no doubt , i dont know why, but i relaxed and knew i made it from day one .
Phew i posted everything i wanted :D i will stick to reading from now on . But i dont promise :D
Andrew please do not quit, but keep sharing what you went through. You are 100% right about the health sector, and its workers. You are also right about medication attitude, that really sucks. You are also right that you are the one responsible for your health and treatment, not doctors. You should be the one sitting on the whell period.
Your statements with tyrosine sounds like it is a magical approach. People are despreate, that is why they could understand that way. Ish was, I guess, just warning because of that.
I am also recovered from viti. My approach, however, did not work in 4 vitis. But I got good improvements with those. It was not the protocol I was using but the material. Now we are fixing a couple of things and trying again. Although I very much wanted to write what I used, I did not want people get hope and then get disappoinment. Anyhow, just be noted we used tyrosine for 8 months and did not see improvement.
So just think that usually a couple of other things coupled with tyrosine could be effective than alone.
Yeah ,just because skin is depigmented doesnt mean its Vitiligo . One should look more into amino acids deficit that causes Vitiligo . There is one certain amino acid that is responsible for skin pigmentation . Look it up . Saved my life .
Andrey, Do you mean the certain amino acid saved your life...what is is how do you get it?
Hana, yeah i posted it like 200 times already :D they will ban me :D :D the amino acid is Tyrosine . I buy it at sports supplements store . Its cheap and effective ... at least for me . Tyrosine deficit is the main reason of Vitiligo ...period .
Yes tyrosine is important, but not the solution really (8 months of continueing experimenting). In the last 6 months experimenting with two vitis on my protocol, I did not have success with vitiligo. I know all pathways (belive me). However, good news for hypo and hiper troids; both can be cured 100% using this product partly. I mean you can quit using troit meditacations totally (this was very surprising for us and uninteresting for the doctors asking for 3 months-troit visits). A hashimotos patient was also totally cured. A couple of tests you need to do done before using this product. It changes depending on the level of troit disorder. More importantly, if you are hyper DO NOT use this amino acid for vitiligo. It will screw up your tyroit badly.
Now after stabilising troit disorder we are working on viti with different ways. However, it is winter and we do not have much success yet. But we have very big hope.
Yeah of course if possible you better check what minerals are lacking in your system , a hair test . But here in Lithuania its very hard to get it done . So i dindt bother .
Also i heard a testimony that manganese helped totally . But its even harder to get :)
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