Another treatment approach

Hi Friends, I've just found this site...

https://veritascures.wordpress.com/tag/kali-sulph/

They say:

"Medicine has no clue what causes Vitiligo, but instead blames it on genetics as usual.  It has more to do with genetic expression relative to a simple cell salt deficiency – not a defect per se.  Once the deficiency is satisfied with one of the twelve Schussler cell salts, Kali Sulph(Potassium sulphate), someone diagnosed early on can arrest and reverse the loss of pigmentation."

Kali Sulph: 

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dhpc&field-keywords=Hyland%27s%20Kali%20Sulph%206X%20Liquid%20Cell%20Salt%2C%202%20oz

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  • Good find Flavio. Interesting read.

    • Another approach.

      It's good to open mind.

      Btw, I bought the salt.

      • I didn't buy the salt.  

        I buy a big bag of cheap baking soda and another giant bag of epsom salt and pour a healthy amount of each into the tub.  I don't really measure, sorry Erin.  But probably not more than 1/2 cup.

        Apparently drinking baking soda is common among athletes.  Soda doping is what its called.  Oh, and it works for hang overs, thanks random you tube guy.

        Erin, I do many many things and am currently having great success. Not sure if baking soda baths are helping or not, but I like to think everything I do is aiming at one theory. That theory is that Vitiligo is caused by a fungal infection inside of our bodies. I didn't come to this conclusion lightly. I've had vitiligo over 20 years and had my fair share of ebbs and flows.  It spreads and goes away.

        Now, I've read many success stories at many different sites.  Vitliligosupport.org has a forum that goes back 10 years.  I spent a few months reading there.  Often diet and exercise were a common link for results.  But no theme. When asked specifics about diet, many people said green tea.  One girl in particular began regimenting in the winter without sun. She drank Paul D'arco tea from Alavita in the evening and green tea in the morning. I started to do that about 1 month before my grand theory.  Others that went gluten-free started having better success too.  Then I read about candida and the candida diet.  A buzzer went off in my mind.  It all seems so simple because the candida people talk about months to years before they get rid of the candida.  I imagined a  different fungus from candida and started searching. I centered on one.

        So, I try to take some form of anti-fungal natural remedy(like Paul D'Arco tea) then run, then tan at a tanning salon(i started 2 weeks ago with the tanning salon because it is winter where I live), then take a baking soda bath and drink a matcha green tea for anti-oxidant.  I aim for 3 times a week and average maybe 2 times. I also make sure I sweat hard once per day.

        Last year I spread the fastest that I've ever spread after having my second child, a surgery, moving, and uprooting a thriving practice and restarting one 40 miles away.

        This year, I'm nearly all regimented and I didn't go to any UVB treatment like I did for 3 years in 2006.  I went in the sun a total of 5 times during the summer. Each time, I ran 30 minutes without sun tan lotion. No shirt. Just shoes and shorts.

        Stress is a "known" major factor for spreading in adults.  Not sure if it fits for a child though.   Flavio likes to say "oxidative stress" because free radicals like Oxygen ions are created.  He thinks that our melanocytes "the little octopus looking things that create melanin" die for no known reason and then get attacked by our immune system for some unknown reason.  We stress out and our skin shuts down. It is a mystery.

        I like to picture a fungus, possibly Aspergillus Fumigatis, the mold you find in your house or on dead leaves inside my body somewhere.  Probably lungs, nasal cavity, and intestine.  [My dental x-rays did show a "strange large mass" in my nasal cavity]  I also had a broken nose when I was very young that I never understood where or how I got it. [GO Image search A. fumigatis in animals.]

        Here is why I think this:

        Mold can live in your body possibly indefinitely.

        It already is a major issue in hospitals with immune compromised people.

        It THRIVES on superoxide dimutase, a byproduct of stress.

        It creates WHITE MELANIN. (does our melanocyte use this and then realize it is wrong and our immune system attacks our melanocyte because it has foreign fungal melanin?)

        It can hide from your immune system in a shell.

        When it dies in our bodies, it releases a cytotoxin that is harmful to our bodies.  Over time, that can lead to DNA damage or genetic issues. (this is why I sweat, to get the toxins out)

        It consumes, magnesium, zinc, and tyrosine.  [Google search zinc deficiency in a nail.]

        Tinea Veriscolor is a known fungus that creates something that looks like vitiligo.  Why can't vitiligo simply be a fungus?  

        I'm still waiting for someone to prove it wrong or right. Or at least for more people to try to find a fungal infection in your body medically.  

        I have very little vitiligo left, unfortunately I didn't take many pictures.  I will post some of the progress on my wrists when I have time.  It is starting to really pigment now, something that hasn't happened in 20 years. I can see under the black light randomized pigment splotches.  My repigmenting usually starts at the hair follicles and then dots out from there.  If this starts to show soon, it will be very different from the norm.  It has a zig zag pigmentation in the center of my wrist.  I am only now using regular tanning beds because apparently UVA light worked better for hands. It goes deeper into the skin.

        • Thank you so much for the information Chris, I am open to different options and safe treatments that will help. I too have had Vitiligo for many years which has been dormant for a very long time, until last summer. 

          I've just recently joined a gym so will be sweating in no time and going to try to soda/Epsom salt bath as neither treatment could nothing but good!

          Best of luck and so glad to hear that your treatment routine has helped you. 

        • Just a correction:

          I think melanocytes detach from the basal membrane for 3 systematic causes:

          1) systematic oxidative stress (fungal infections are under this umbrella)

          2) systematic physical traumas and friction

          3) systematic stress hormones (emotional and psychological issues)

          However, non-segmental vitiligo (NSV) needs to be triggered by a severe reason, like:

          A) severe skin sun burn

          B) severe emotional trauma

          C) severe physical friction

          NSV = a trigger (either A or B or C)  + one or more causes (1, and/or 2, and/or 3) + a genetic pre-disposition.

          I don't think anymore that immune system play a significant role in vitiligo. It's possible that the immune system kills melanocytes already detached from that basal membrane (which are zoombis) that would exfoliate in the epidermis anyway...

          For more detais, check: www.vitiligomap.com

          PS: Oxidative stress is a complex definition.  See below:

          Oxidative stress (excess of free radicals). It's a complex concept that can be reached by many ways. The major ones are: food allergy, poor diet, leaky gut and dysbiosis (parasites, candida, h-pylori, yeast, fungus, etc.). It can be additionally caused by toxic chemical compounds and pollutants in your body, hydrogenated fats, all kinds of pollution (air, water and food), oils that have been heated to very high temperatures, cigarette smoke (directly inhaled or secondhand), dehydration, too much sugar, too much animal protein in your diet, geophysical stress (like living near power lines or waste dumps), viral infections, preservatives in your food, drugs (over the counter and prescription), artificial food colorings and flavorings, plastics and phthalates, chemical cleaning supplies, chlorinated water (that you drink, shower or swim in), alcohol, pesticides in your food, radiation exposure, psychological and emotional stress, endurance exercise and * incredibly * physical traumas (muscle damaging anaerobic training, trauma or injury to muscle, bone and skin). Oxidative stress causes defect in the membrane integrity, also causes lipid peroxidation, generates hydrogen peroxide in the skin and mutates mitochondrial DNA. All this weakens cell adhesion. NSV starts because people who are pre-disposed to have dysfunctional melanocytes, start having mutated melanocytes. Their cell adhesion becomes compromised.

          • Thank you Flavio, looks like I have some reading and research to do. I have never heard of Oxidative stress but some dots are connecting in my head after reading your post about the suggested causes of Vitiligo. Of course as a child my scraped knees never healed with colour, but instead once the scabs were gone the skin was white. 

            Thanks again for the information and look forward to chatting more. 

            • Usually, knees repigment a lot with pseudocatalase cream, since it's a kind of hairy area.

  • I found that site extremely frustrating, in large part because of the lack of any scientific evidence being presented to show that the hypotheses might be valid.  Then I actually got angry when I read the assertion that infant Vitiligo might be a sign of sexual abuse, as this unproven assertion would surely be hugely problematic for parents of children with Vitiligo.  

    • I agree.  The  reason for posting it is because of the homeopathy approach (salts).    

      It's definitely a different treatment suggestion that I had never seen.

  • Flavio, do you know why I like that it still could be a fungal issue?  If it's true, we have an enemy and a way to cure this.  I think the gut is the next great exploration of medicine.  The 1 Billion dollar industry surrounding ulcers treatment with Tums and pepcid AC only helps fuel my theory.  It took a doctor swallowing H Pylori, getting an ulcer 3 days later, and curing it with antibiotics to be taken seriously.

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