Posted by Chris K on November 17, 2014 at 4:36pm in Main
Hi group,
I have driven my wife wild for the last week talking about fungus, but after having non-segmental vitiligo for 20 years and experiencing 50% repigmentation in 3 months including removal from my face, I wanted to first figure it out and then tell the world.
I'm not a medical professional. I have no real microbiology background. I studied economics at the University of Michigan and am working on a certification/masters program right now. In a 3 day espresso/energy drink induced cram session, I came to this final conclusion. I still need quite a bit of help with the details, but I'll bet lots of dollars to pesos that this little fungus can cause all of our issues. We simply had to be immune-compromised for a long enough period of time to host this fungus. Then, it never left. It sits dormant feeding off of our body until it spreads under the right conditions, oxidation & possibly a mating cycle during spring time. Ever spread during spring? This grows on decaying leaves and my guess is the spores flying into our noses are meeting a host. Gross right? Please read this "light reading" on our little enemy.
http://www.pasteur.fr/~tekaia/tekaia.COM.2005.pdf
My highlight:
A. fumigatus is a saprotrophic fungus that only becomes pathogenic for very simple biological reasons:
it is present in high concentrations in the atmosphere, it grows faster than any other airborne fungi at 40 degrees C and it can overcome the defence of the host not because it has developed specific systems but because the host colonized has a very weak defence immunity. This should direct future studies towards the host rather than the fungus to understand the pathobiology of A. fumigatus.
This fungus grows on decaying leaves and compost. It is everywhere. It can cause a lot of damage in our a human Body. Google search some pictures, it is bad.
Have you ever had a fungal nail? I was born with one, eventually I had to have it surgically removed. It is a terrible thing to fight. I think I'm genetically predisposed, as all vitiligo carriers are, but to what....I think this is a simple answer. A common fungus. I was told by medical professionals that a fungus is dumb, not like a virus. Good, then it can be beat.
Here are the scary problems. A fungus in your body can let off mycotoxins, typically at its death or when mating?(still unknown) or searching for its own food. It's food, Zinc, Magnesium, Iron, and salts. Thesetoxins can disturb many chemical reactions in your body. Specifically, your absorption mechanism of Vitamin D. More specifically the liver cytochrome 450 at my best guess. I need help from a microbiologist here. Please somebody take this ball and run with it.
In a nutshell, synthesis of vitamin d is the process of tanning and turning sunlight into a highly refined chemical that goes first from liver, to kidney, to adrenal, to blood stream, to thyroid. If a toxin is injected in that system over and over and over, you will have problems. I've experienced them all.
Cold hands and feet. Too much phosphorous in my blood.
Weak parathyroid and over production of PTH.
Liver enzymes way off the charts.
Vitamin d deficiency.
acidic ph levels.
Lactose intolerance.
Weak energy, lethargy, ADHD like symptoms.
Low calcium, low magnesium.
Low adrenaline/ adrenal issues.
If your body doesn't complete is cycle, the end result is blood imbalance. Vitamin D3 refines into the adrenal gland where it sends a signal to absorp calcium and magnesium in your body. If the system is broken at the liver from a faulty refinery due to a toxin, imagine all that can go wrong. How often will it keep trying?
Ever heard of Tinea Veriscolor. A simple fungus that causes vitiligo like white patches but it is topical and can be cured with selsun blue and a deep sweat.
That simple treatment is where I came up with my own idea to treat vitiligo like the worst fungal infection of my life. I ran outside in the sun this summer and sweat while studying every anti-fungal process I could find without prescriptions. Remember those mycotoxins, they can cause NASTY side effects. I'm not positive that this is the answer, again I would bet dollars to pesos. Prove it with me and get some tests as a group, I made the mistake of just trying some thing without consulting a doctor (mostly because I was absolutely fed up), but please consult with your doctors and spread this idea as a possibility. I want it proven or disproven.
Thanks!
Chris
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Ok, detachment could simply happen because our body is lacking magnesium and apparently manganese with a quick search. If we are lacking that, it appears like those two ionized elements bind the melanocytes. Again, we are magnesium short as a group, probably calcium too.
Does anybody else test blood levels?
If not, if you are like me, you lack magnesium and calcium. Please get blood tests and figure this out. Also, your PH levels will probably be acidic. phosphorous in your blood will be high.
Phosphorous, by the way, is why your hands, feet, and nose are cold. Calcium is the heat, phosphorous is the cold.
Phosphorous is what a race horse is overfed to make it jumpy, anxious, and aware. Take that SAME horse and feed it calcium rich diet and it will calm down.
I like your website, I simply have a hard time seeing our melanocytes detaching during stress with no reattachment. It also doesn't explain the heightened number of T-cells found in the skin near active sites.
What if this "white fungal melanin" got used by our melanocytes by mistake. Or body then attacked it. A toxin was released. Now, our body needs to get that toxin out. That's why the areas that sweat come back so much faster.
Funny too that superoxide dismutase(the body lets this outin large quantities during oxidative stress), just so happens to be the catalyst for growth in this mold.
T-cells might kill detached melanocytes. They look like zumbis... They are mutated. They became intruders. If I were immune system, I would kill these detached melanocytes too.
That sounds about right, don't forget about sweating! The more I read about this mold, the more convinced I am. I began to get even more vigilant in the past couple of days. I've taken baking soda baths. Drank baking soda. Even inhaled it by putting the water through a humidifier. I'm convinced that we all have a common fungus somewhere in our bodies.
I have felt heat in my finger tips and had pus coming out of a few of them within the last week. I think it might be repigmentation my finger tips, somewhere I never thought would come back. They are still inflamed, too early to tell. My wrists are also spotting, it has been 15 years since they depigmented.
Mold, fungus, Aspergillus fumigatis, black mold. It creates white melanin, it can hide from our immune system. It is everywhere. It can live in EXTREME conditions. It is such a simple idea that nobody has bothered to study it.
Have you done a stool test at Genova Diagnostics (Asheville, NC)?
They have a kit, so that you send the sample by FEDEX.
They will show yeast (fungus) if they are there.
So far, I'm pretty sure that it has an indirect connection with vitiligo (dysbiosis).
To fight it, Dr. Ray Strand recommends at his website:
-Calcium/Magnesium
-Grape Seed
-COQ10
-Fish Oil
-Probiotic
-Anti-oxidant tablet (see below)
-Mineral tablet (see below too)
Mineral Tablet Minerals are a critical aspect of a complete and balanced nutritional supplement program. I recommend chelated minerals. This means that the mineral is attached to an amino acid for better absorption—minerals are noted to be very difficult to absorb. There are many different forms of minerals, which have great claims in how well they are absorbed. It is important that the amounts of these minerals are clearly presented on the label. It is especially important that your mineral tablet be complete and balanced because these minerals compete with one another in the absorption process. I will often recommend additional antioxidants in many of my clinical recommendations; however, I do not increase the level of minerals above the following recommendations because of their potential toxicity. You must be very careful when considering the combination several different supplements to achieve these levels because you will most likely get too much of certain minerals. It is better to try to find a mineral tablet that comes close to these recommendations. You will usually need to add an additional calcium/magnesium tablet to accomplish these goals. • Calcium-------800 to 1500 mg---depending on your dietary intake of calcium • Magnesium-----500mg to 800mg • Zinc-----20 to 30 mg • Selenium-----200 mcg is ideal • Chromium----200 mcg to 300 mcg • Copper---1 to 3 mg • Manganese----3 to 6 mg • Vanadium---30 to 100 mcg • Iodine---100 mcg to 200 mcg • Molybdenum---50 mcg to 100 mcg • Good Mixture of Trace Minerals Additional Nutrients for Bone Health • Silicon---3 mg • Boron----2 to 3 mg Children 2 to 8 years of age or under 50 pounds—should take one-fourth (1/4) of these recommended nutrients Children 9 to 16 years of age or between 50 and 110 pounds—should take one-half (1/2) of these recommended nutrients • Calcium------------800 to 1500 mg---depending on your dietary intake of calcium • Magnesium--------500mg to 800mg • Zinc-----------------20 to 30 mg • Selenium------------200 mcg is ideal • Chromium----------200 mcg to 300 mcg • Copper--------------1 to 3 mg • Manganese----------3 to 6 mg • Vanadium-----------30 to 100 mcg • Iodine----------------100 mcg to 200 mcg • Molybdenum--------50 mcg to 100 mcg • Good Mixture of Trace Minerals Children 2 to 8 years of age or under 50 pounds—should take one-fourth (1/4) of these recommended nutrients Children 9 to 16 years of age or between 50 and 110 pounds—should take one-half (1/2) of these recommended nutrients [Close]
Antioxidant Tablet The more antioxidants this tablet contains and the more varied the antioxidants the better. • Vitamin A—I prefer no vitamin A because of its potential toxicity • Carotenoids—I prefer a mixture of cartenoids o Beta-carotene-------10,000 to 15,000 IU o Lycopene-------------1 to 3 mg o Lutein/Zeaxanthin---1 to 6 mg o Alpha-carotene------500 to 800 mcg • Vitamin C------1,000 to 2,000 mg • Vitamin E—I prefer a mixture of vitamin E’s----400 to 800 IU o D-alpha tocopherol o D-gamma tocopherol o Mixed tocotrienol Bioflavanoid Complex • Rutin • Quercitin • Green Tea • Broccoli extract • Cruciferous • Bilberry extract • Bromelain Alpha lipoic acid-----15 to 30 mg CoQ10----15 to 30 mg Glutathione----10 to 20 mg N-acetyl-L-cysteine----50 to 75 mg B Vitamins (Cofactors) • Folic Acid---------------------------800 to 1000 mcg • Vitamin B1 (Thiamin)-------------20 to 30 mg • Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)-----------25 to 30 mg • Vitamin B3 (Niacin)----------------20 to 75 mg • Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid)—80 to 200 mg • Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine)-----------25 to 50 mg • Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin)---------100 to 250 mcg • Biotin---------------------------------300 to 1000 mcg Other important Vitamins: • Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol)------400 to 500 IU • Vitamin K-----------------------------50 to 100 mcg Additional Nutrients needed to improve homocysteine levels and brain function: • Choline-------------100 to 200 mg • Trimethylglycine—200 to 500 mg • Inositol---------------150 to 250 mg
No, just this one type of fungus. Specifically Aspergillus Fumigatis. It is mushroom shaped it eats your zinc. Ever looked at a zinc deficient finger nail, your skin might be lacking zinc.
It is able to shield itself from our immune system, our T-cells can't attack it and our superoxide created during stress feeds it.
It eats magnesium, the fuel for your thyroid. It also has its own pigment and uses your tyrosine, the main melanin ingredient.
Please add this into your research, dig deep. Imagine it in our gut. Now, how can we prove it? Nice site btw.
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Does anybody else test blood levels?
If not, if you are like me, you lack magnesium and calcium. Please get blood tests and figure this out. Also, your PH levels will probably be acidic. phosphorous in your blood will be high.
Phosphorous, by the way, is why your hands, feet, and nose are cold. Calcium is the heat, phosphorous is the cold.
Phosphorous is what a race horse is overfed to make it jumpy, anxious, and aware. Take that SAME horse and feed it calcium rich diet and it will calm down.
What if this "white fungal melanin" got used by our melanocytes by mistake. Or body then attacked it. A toxin was released. Now, our body needs to get that toxin out. That's why the areas that sweat come back so much faster.
Funny too that superoxide dismutase(the body lets this outin large quantities during oxidative stress), just so happens to be the catalyst for growth in this mold.
T-cells might kill detached melanocytes. They look like zumbis... They are mutated. They became intruders. If I were immune system, I would kill these detached melanocytes too.
Also read this doc attached. Sorry, not dysbiosis related...
skin-friction-tooth-brush.pdf
We will work together.
We will combine yours and my theory, since they have a lot in common in terms of treatment protocol.
Let's discuss one item at a time.
Focus now is dysbiosis.
Please spread your view about dysbiosis for the time being.
I have felt heat in my finger tips and had pus coming out of a few of them within the last week. I think it might be repigmentation my finger tips, somewhere I never thought would come back. They are still inflamed, too early to tell. My wrists are also spotting, it has been 15 years since they depigmented.
Mold, fungus, Aspergillus fumigatis, black mold. It creates white melanin, it can hide from our immune system. It is everywhere. It can live in EXTREME conditions. It is such a simple idea that nobody has bothered to study it.
I'm considering it. I do appreciate your dedication.
But I still see your actions as fighting for dysbiosis (one oxidative stress sressor).
I'm open minded.
Research takes time.
Here is another person linking the same simple fungus to melanoma....but I don't see major studies yet.
Have you done a stool test at Genova Diagnostics (Asheville, NC)?
They have a kit, so that you send the sample by FEDEX.
They will show yeast (fungus) if they are there.
So far, I'm pretty sure that it has an indirect connection with vitiligo (dysbiosis).
To fight it, Dr. Ray Strand recommends at his website:
-Calcium/Magnesium
-Grape Seed
-COQ10
-Fish Oil
-Probiotic
-Anti-oxidant tablet (see below)
-Mineral tablet (see below too)
Mineral Tablet
Minerals are a critical aspect of a complete and balanced nutritional supplement program. I recommend chelated minerals. This means that the mineral is attached to an amino acid for better absorption—minerals are noted to be very difficult to absorb. There are many different forms of minerals, which have great claims in how well they are absorbed. It is important that the amounts of these minerals are clearly presented on the label. It is especially important that your mineral tablet be complete and balanced because these minerals compete with one another in the absorption process. I will often recommend additional antioxidants in many of my clinical recommendations; however, I do not increase the level of minerals above the following recommendations because of their potential toxicity. You must be very careful when considering the combination several different supplements to achieve these levels because you will most likely get too much of certain minerals. It is better to try to find a mineral tablet that comes close to these recommendations. You will usually need to add an additional calcium/magnesium tablet to accomplish these goals.
• Calcium-------800 to 1500 mg---depending on your dietary intake of calcium
• Magnesium-----500mg to 800mg
• Zinc-----20 to 30 mg
• Selenium-----200 mcg is ideal
• Chromium----200 mcg to 300 mcg
• Copper---1 to 3 mg
• Manganese----3 to 6 mg
• Vanadium---30 to 100 mcg
• Iodine---100 mcg to 200 mcg
• Molybdenum---50 mcg to 100 mcg
• Good Mixture of Trace Minerals
Additional Nutrients for Bone Health
• Silicon---3 mg
• Boron----2 to 3 mg
Children 2 to 8 years of age or under 50 pounds—should take one-fourth (1/4) of these recommended nutrients Children 9 to 16 years of age or between 50 and 110 pounds—should take one-half (1/2) of these recommended nutrients
• Calcium------------800 to 1500 mg---depending on your dietary intake of calcium
• Magnesium--------500mg to 800mg
• Zinc-----------------20 to 30 mg
• Selenium------------200 mcg is ideal
• Chromium----------200 mcg to 300 mcg
• Copper--------------1 to 3 mg
• Manganese----------3 to 6 mg
• Vanadium-----------30 to 100 mcg
• Iodine----------------100 mcg to 200 mcg
• Molybdenum--------50 mcg to 100 mcg
• Good Mixture of Trace Minerals
Children 2 to 8 years of age or under 50 pounds—should take one-fourth (1/4) of these recommended nutrients
Children 9 to 16 years of age or between 50 and 110 pounds—should take one-half (1/2) of these recommended nutrients
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Antioxidant Tablet
The more antioxidants this tablet contains and the more varied the antioxidants the better.
• Vitamin A—I prefer no vitamin A because of its potential toxicity
• Carotenoids—I prefer a mixture of cartenoids
o Beta-carotene-------10,000 to 15,000 IU
o Lycopene-------------1 to 3 mg
o Lutein/Zeaxanthin---1 to 6 mg
o Alpha-carotene------500 to 800 mcg
• Vitamin C------1,000 to 2,000 mg
• Vitamin E—I prefer a mixture of vitamin E’s----400 to 800 IU
o D-alpha tocopherol
o D-gamma tocopherol
o Mixed tocotrienol
Bioflavanoid Complex
• Rutin
• Quercitin
• Green Tea
• Broccoli extract
• Cruciferous
• Bilberry extract
• Bromelain
Alpha lipoic acid-----15 to 30 mg
CoQ10----15 to 30 mg
Glutathione----10 to 20 mg
N-acetyl-L-cysteine----50 to 75 mg
B Vitamins (Cofactors)
• Folic Acid---------------------------800 to 1000 mcg
• Vitamin B1 (Thiamin)-------------20 to 30 mg
• Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)-----------25 to 30 mg
• Vitamin B3 (Niacin)----------------20 to 75 mg
• Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid)—80 to 200 mg
• Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine)-----------25 to 50 mg
• Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin)---------100 to 250 mcg
• Biotin---------------------------------300 to 1000 mcg
Other important Vitamins:
• Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol)------400 to 500 IU
• Vitamin K-----------------------------50 to 100 mcg
Additional Nutrients needed to improve homocysteine levels and brain function:
• Choline-------------100 to 200 mg
• Trimethylglycine—200 to 500 mg
• Inositol---------------150 to 250 mg
It is able to shield itself from our immune system, our T-cells can't attack it and our superoxide created during stress feeds it.
It eats magnesium, the fuel for your thyroid. It also has its own pigment and uses your tyrosine, the main melanin ingredient.
Please add this into your research, dig deep. Imagine it in our gut. Now, how can we prove it? Nice site btw.
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